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 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:33 am Post subject: Christian Tattoos |
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As I look around for a tattoo artist to do my first it occurs to me that there are little are no artists specialising in tattoos for folks who want a mark to demonstrate thier religious beliefs.
I know tattooing is not a requirement for your belief, infact some religions ban it or frown upon it but I think it would be a brilliant idea for an Christian artist to specialise in the work.
I want a cross tat and I sometimes feel put off by all the menacing images on the artists wall. Dont get me wrong, every man to himself but it took me a long time to find an artist who I felt was at least sympathetic to my beliefs......
Christian Tattoo Studio!!!!!........yes please |
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Christian Tattoos |
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I know tattooing is not a requirement for your belief, infact some religions ban it or frown upon it |
Yes, for example the Christian religion forbids it ... if you follow the Bible. |
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Thanks for that, you will be refering to:
Leviticus 19:28 which says, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you:"
Its fair enough to take that literally but the passage is not generally thought to be referring to a tattoo as an evangelical act of faith, for example the Coptic Christians have over the ages tattood the cross on the inside of their right arm as a sign of thier faith. Chatholic sailors had Religious tattoos on thier backs to display thier faith. |
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Pick an artist based on their talent and you'll be all set. Most great artists won't be pumped about doing a boring cross image though. |
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Right on, and you could have creepy mediocre artists that could tell you exactly what to get where, then expect 30% of your salary for it. And the beauty of it is, as long as you BELIEVE its good, and they tell you enough times it is, than it's good, right? This would be the doucheyist tattoo parlor ever..
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| Petermn wrote: | Thanks for that, you will be refering to:
Leviticus 19:28 which says, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you:"
Its fair enough to take that literally but the passage is not generally thought to be referring to a tattoo as an evangelical act of faith, for example the Coptic Christians have over the ages tattood the cross on the inside of their right arm as a sign of thier faith. Chatholic sailors had Religious tattoos on thier backs to display thier faith. |
Christians have always cherry-picked the Bible to ignore what they don't agree with and justify what they want to. Or more often, they are too lazy to read the bible and don't know what the hell is in it anyway. If they did read it, they'd be too lazy to understand it in the context it was originally written in.
Regarding tattoos, it was a related to the mourning practice of the Canaanites to avoid the spirit of someone who had just died by altering their appearance. Also, blood was considered unclean and if you touched someone else's blood, there were rituals that needed to be observed so that you could become clean.
I actually don't care what anyone does; it's none of my business. It's just that the thought of a Christian Tattoo artist tattooing other Christians is ironic. |
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| MourningWood wrote: |
Christians have always cherry-picked the Bible to ignore what they don't agree with and justify what they want to. |
This. X1000. Christianity is a joke...
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You might be right ofcourse,who knows, not me thats for sure. Your comments are making me think again about having it done.
I am aware that all these Bible comments are First testament where the Jews were bound by laws like what to eat and should/shouldnt do etc. - - New Testament followers of Jesus are freed of such binding restrictions.
Nevertheless I suspect a cross tat would upset some purists but might break me away from my life as as a private Christian and open some healthy but difficult converations( do I really need this?)
Maybe the Christian tattoo parlour isnt going to happen but likewise its a shame if the artform is restricted to mainly macabre images. |
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| Petermn wrote: | You might be right ofcourse,who knows, not me thats for sure. Your comments are making me think again about having it done.
I am aware that all these Bible comments are First testament where the Jews were bound by laws like what to eat and should/shouldnt do etc. - - New Testament followers of Jesus are freed of such binding restrictions.Nevertheless I suspect a cross tat would upset some purists but might break me away from my life as as a private Christian and open some healthy but difficult converations( do I really need this?)
Maybe the Christian tattoo parlour isnt going to happen but likewise its a shame if the artform is restricted to mainly macabre images. |
Concur. There is an entire genre of Christian tattoos with images of Mary, Jesus, Angles...it's not a big deal. Now, Southern Baptists might not give tattoos a stamp of approval, but there is nothing inherantly anti-Christian about a tattoo...unless it is an actual anti-Christian image. The shop where I got my original Bulldog in Pensacola was a Christian tattoo shop. All the artist professed to be Christians and they stated such on their sign. If you are sincere in your faith and your love of Jesus Christ, I don't think a tattoo is going to cause any problems.
And don't worry about the "purists". They don't want you to drink a beer, watch R-rated movies, or even dance. Some Christians are as restrictive as the Old Testament Jews. |
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| Thanks for that PGL, cheers |
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Petermn wrote: |
I am aware that all these Bible comments are First testament where the Jews were bound by laws like what to eat and should/shouldnt do etc. - - New Testament followers of Jesus are freed of such binding restrictions.
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So they no longer have to follow the 10 commandments? Generally they ignore the rules that aren't convenient and try to enforce the ones that they like.
If you believe the bible Jesus was pretty specific: Matthew 5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished." Paul changed the rules because it was the only way he could get followers among the Pagans. There was no way they were going to follow Jewish Law. It's funny that the apostle that never met Jesus changed all the rules. The Apostles that actually knew Jesus got the short end of the stick. What Christianity would like everyone to forget is that Jesus was a Jew and generally supported Jewish law.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Christian. I'm just tired of Christians who don't know the bible and make up the rules as they go along. |
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Christians have always cherry-picked the Bible to ignore what they don't agree with and justify what they want to. Or more often, they are too lazy to read the bible and don't know what the hell is in it anyway. If they did read it, they'd be too lazy to understand it in the context it was originally written in.
Regarding tattoos, it was a related to the mourning practice of the Canaanites to avoid the spirit of someone who had just died by altering their appearance. Also, blood was considered unclean and if you touched someone else's blood, there were rituals that needed to be observed so that you could become clean.
I actually don't care what anyone does; it's none of my business. It's just that the thought of a Christian Tattoo artist tattooing other Christians is ironic. |
I agree with you in large part, but it is also important to recognize that there are many, many different Christian religions and beliefs vary widely among them. For example, unless one is a literalist, one does not believe that Moses actually parted the sea, that Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt, or that Noah had a massive cruise ship with 2 of every animal. Of course, in keeping with your point about cherry-picking, one must either accept that everything supernatural in the Bible is literal or that it isn't. All of that said, Christians are infamously hypocritical and Christofacism is alive and well in the US. |
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You are right when you say that some people try to bend scripture to fit what they want, passages can be extracted out of context and applied to almost anything... but every true Christian knows in thier heart when they are doing this and they will have to answer for it in the long run.
As for tattoos, we have to dig deep to find any sound biblical reference to them at all and when we succeed its clearly not talking about a tattoo as a sign of faith in Jesus,such markings are not thought of or referred to in the Bible....It can therefore be concluded that a mark as a sign of faith is ok....theres no commandmentthat says thou shalt not tattoo as a sign of faith in the one true God. |
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| Petermn wrote: | You are right when you say that some people try to bend scripture to fit what they want, passages can be extracted out of context and applied to almost anything... but every true Christian knows in thier heart when they are doing this and they will have to answer for it in the long run.
As for tattoos, we have to dig deep to find any sound biblical reference to them at all and when we succeed its clearly not talking about a tattoo as a sign of faith in Jesus,such markings are not thought of or referred to in the Bible....It can therefore be concluded that a mark as a sign of faith is ok....theres no commandmentthat says thou shalt not tattoo as a sign of faith in the one true God. |
"You are right when you say that some people try to bend scripture to fit what they want," Right, kind of like you are doing here. 
You don't have to dig deep, it's right there in black and white. I would be interested in what objective criteria is used to determine which parts are ignored and which parts are followed. |
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