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PS, I don't know what kind of arrangement Mike Parsons had with Bill Goldberg when he designed his famous tribal piece, but as much as that thing was marketed, it should have made Parsons a very rich man indeed.
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the other side of the coin:
many years back i had a customer who requested a exact copy of a chicago cubs logo on his arm, the old red, white and blue logo down to the copyright symbol. after the tattoo had healed he went to a home game and at some point showed it to a security guard who thrn asked to see his ticket, they now had his seating location. before the game ended the chicago police came and arrested him and he was charged with copy right infringment, released after getting a court date. he came and cried to me, i suggested at the very lest i could blackout the copyright symbol and claim artist interption but he refused to do a thing including hiring a laywer. the cubs didn't care who applied the tattoo just that he was wearing it.
the final outcome was that he was ordered to pay $14.95 a month for the rest of his life or until the logo was removed, he has refused to have it removed. it has been probably 15 years since i applied this logo to his hide. i see him now and then and he is still paying the $180 or so a year, if my math is correct he is appoarching the 3 grand mark soon.
i am guessing any laywer worth a shit could have turned this around and claimed that he was advertising the team for free but he went in unarmed and on his own.. a dumbass...
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| mykel605 wrote: | the other side of the coin:
many years back i had a customer who requested a exact copy of a chicago cubs logo on his arm, the old red, white and blue logo down to the copyright symbol. after the tattoo had healed he went to a home game and at some point showed it to a security guard who thrn asked to see his ticket, they now had his seating location. before the game ended the chicago police came and arrested him and he was charged with copy right infringment, released after getting a court date. he came and cried to me, i suggested at the very lest i could blackout the copyright symbol and claim artist interption but he refused to do a thing including hiring a laywer. the cubs didn't care who applied the tattoo just that he was wearing it.
the final outcome was that he was ordered to pay $14.95 a month for the rest of his life or until the logo was removed, he has refused to have it removed. it has been probably 15 years since i applied this logo to his hide. i see him now and then and he is still paying the $180 or so a year, if my math is correct he is appoarching the 3 grand mark soon.
i am guessing any laywer worth a shit could have turned this around and claimed that he was advertising the team for free but he went in unarmed and on his own.. a dumbass... |
thats fuckin crazy. youd figure after that, he would be a whitesox fan or something and have that tat covered up |
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This story hits home to me, I know Matt Reed and have had work done by him. He owns the shop I get all my work done at, he's a hell of a guy! He's not the type of guy that is gonna be sue happy and try and earn a quick buck, doesn't need too.
This is the first I've heard of this story and I have mixed emotions, but I agree once the art has been applied to skin its free to show to the world. Whether famous of not, tatts end up in pics. I think Matt was right, if Rasheed was to apply it to a piece of clothing and make money off of it then maybe Reed should be compensated. |
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fuck that. There are a ton of people with Red Sox tattoos, it's even all over their myspace page.
Not saying I doubt your story, just fuck paying them 15 a month. I still plan on getting the boston B on the side of my neck
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| mykel605 wrote: |
many years back i had a customer who requested a exact copy of a chicago cubs logo on his arm, . . .the final outcome was that he was ordered to pay $14.95 a month for the rest of his life or until the logo was removed,
i am guessing any laywer worth a shit could have turned this around and claimed that he was advertising the team for free but he went in unarmed and on his own.. a dumbass... |
Not only is that a very stupid PR move on the Cubs part, but it's also just wrong on so many levels. The guy was obviously just a big fan showing the ultimate support for his team, and was not attempting to make any money off the tattoo.
But, the law being what it is, and corporate greed being what IT is, I'm not surprised at the outcome when the guy showed up without legal representation.
Some of you may remember the Disney Corp. going after the guy with all the Disney character tattoos a few years back, but that's a little different situation, because that guy was being paid for TV and public appearances because of the work.
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BTW, everyone's missing the biggest and most bovious target here :
Harley Davidson Motorcycles
Since it's been established that cash CAN be made in this manner, imagine if THEY went after everyone with HD/Bar and Sheild/etc etc etc tattoos?!?!!?
They could probably bail out wall street 
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But Harley Davidson is smart enough to recognize it as the ultimate form of free advertising, and to realize something that the Cubs organization obviously doesn't get: You don't punish your fans for just being loyal fans.
What better statement of brand loyalty could any company hope for than to have their logo permanently adorn someone's body?
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| mykel605 wrote: | the other side of the coin:
many years back i had a customer who requested a exact copy of a chicago cubs logo on his arm, the old red, white and blue logo down to the copyright symbol. after the tattoo had healed he went to a home game and at some point showed it to a security guard who thrn asked to see his ticket, they now had his seating location. before the game ended the chicago police came and arrested him and he was charged with copy right infringment, released after getting a court date. he came and cried to me, i suggested at the very lest i could blackout the copyright symbol and claim artist interption but he refused to do a thing including hiring a laywer. the cubs didn't care who applied the tattoo just that he was wearing it.
the final outcome was that he was ordered to pay $14.95 a month for the rest of his life or until the logo was removed, he has refused to have it removed. it has been probably 15 years since i applied this logo to his hide. i see him now and then and he is still paying the $180 or so a year, if my math is correct he is appoarching the 3 grand mark soon.
i am guessing any laywer worth a shit could have turned this around and claimed that he was advertising the team for free but he went in unarmed and on his own.. a dumbass... |
Sounds like a bullshit story to me.. Not that you're BSing us, but that he probably BSed you. You don't get 'arrested' for copyright infringement. It's not a criminal offense! If someone spotted his tattoo and wanted to sue him for having it, they could do so without the aid of the police. |
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You're right. That angle didn't even occur to me.
That would be like arresting a fan for wearing an unlicensed Cubs shirt. Now, if you were set up outside the ballpark selling unlicensed merch, or offering unauthorized Cubs tattoos (either real or temporary), then yes, you could be arrested for bootlegging.
But just going to a game with an unlicensed logo on your body? Nope, that does sound like bullshit now that you mention it. Copyright/Trademark infringement is usually a civil matter, not criminal.
What would the cops care, even if it was called to their attention?
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I think Wallace an Asshole for not tipping artist appropriatly for the work. The tattoo was the main focus of the comercial. I think cause Wallace was a dick the Artist decided to sue. Should the artist win...no. You live and you learn, next time quote a higher price. More then likley they worked it out cause Wallace realised what a dick he was being.
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| MattCrunk wrote: | But Harley Davidson is smart enough to recognize it as the ultimate form of free advertising, and to realize something that the Cubs organization obviously doesn't get: You don't punish your fans for just being loyal fans.
What better statement of brand loyalty could any company hope for than to have their logo permanently adorn someone's body? |
90% of a company's worth is in good will. Coca-Cola, for instance, is the strongest brand in the world, and they make syrup. They don't even handle the bottling, etc. Other plants do that. People buy CC stock because of good will, so people willing to go after a guy for a $100 tattoo on his neck are destroying their brand image. As you pointed out, they just don't understand.
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| happyinasadkindaway wrote: | | I think Wallace an Asshole for not tipping artist appropriatly for the work. The tattoo was the main focus of the comercial. I think cause Wallace was a dick the Artist decided to sue. Should the artist win...no. You live and you learn, next time quote a higher price. More then likley they worked it out cause Wallace realised what a dick he was being. |
How old are you? Your ignorance indicates you're about 10 years old. Shut the fuck up already.... You're the new Fire_Queef... |
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