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 Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject: Bagging your machines |
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My mentor has been bagging his machines for about the past 5 years when he works. He considers it just another safety precaution but told me recently that he's beginning to think that it's a bit excessive. I've talked to artists that do, and artists that don't. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Anything you touch from the time the client sits in the chair should be autoclavable or disposable. Does he autoclave or dispose of his machines? His power supply? His work bench? His lamp? His spray bottles?
If not, then they must not be touched, and the only way to avoid that is by using a barrier.
While HLDs (high level disinfectants) serve their purpose, they should not be relied upon solely, because there is no way to scientifically validate that you got all the cooties off your work area, etc....unless you pay someone to come in and swab the area and test it between every customer. So you should try not to infect the area to begin with. That way the combination of using barriers, and still cleaning with HLDs will tend to be an effective combination, and you rely on neither alone. |
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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good call. I assume that's why he started bagging his machines in the first place and why he is still doing it to this day. He actually does cover his work area, chair, client chair, and spray bottles with bags/paper covers that he throws out after every job. He doesn't cover his power supply, though, and I've never heard of that. do companies make covers or is it more of the "plastic baggie" treatment. Just curious, because it sounds like a really good idea.
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Blue painter's tape wrapped around the knob...or the regular blue barrier film cut into strips to cover the knob.
The knob is the only thing you should ever have to touch during a tattoo. Just like the whole light doesn't have to be covered...just the part you grab to adjust it. |
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that's a solid idea. The only thing that really get touched other than the 2 knobs you mentioned (light switch and power supply tuner) is a kill switch that my mentor installed for his work station US cleaner. I'm sure that the same technique using painter's tape could be used there as well. Thanx for the tip, i'll pass it on to him tomorrow and see what his take on it is.
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If he is using an ultra-sonic on his workstation, that involves being even more cautious. They tend to create micro spatter all over the area. So, it is important to take measures to prevent that.
I don't use one these days, at my station. Too much extra cleaning, and two disposable cups of water will do about as good a job. The other guy in my main studio likes his, and goes to the extra trouble to have it, and stay clean.
There should be NOTHING on your work area that isn't going to be used on the client who is sitting in the chair. Everything else (ink bottles, stereo, caps, etc) should be somewhere OFF the workstation. That is particularly important when you are using an ultrasonic at your station. Because no matter how large the countertop, it and everything on it, MUST be THOROUGHLY cleaned after every client. If it is 100 foot long, every square inch must be considered contaminated, and so must everything on that 100 foot counter.
My work area has my wash (bagged) bottles and power supply on it, and what i need to do the current tattoo...period.
Everything else is stored in roller cabinets and shelves nearby, but out of the area that will be contaminated. I do not reach out of the area without first removing my gloves, from the time the client sits down.
Making this a habit is a good idea that will help prevent cross contamination into areas you consider clean.
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:43 am Post subject: |
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My procedure room at my main studio:
It is a very large room. What you see in the pic is one small area of it. Off to the left is an area for the client's friends to sit, (no more than 2 allowed)and to the right is my drawing table/desk...safely away from the procedure area, yet private from the waiting area.
The cabinets are sturdy metal, easy to clean and move, easy to keep things organized in, and they lock. This keeps my sterile instruments from ever being compromised by anyone, and cleaning a breeze. The walls have all been sealed at every seam, trim is sealed, the floor to wall and ceiling to wall connections have been sealed, then the walls sprayed with 'multispec' which is a waterproof and highly scrubable surface. If you wanted, you could hose the room out, and do no damage to it.
I don't like clutter, and I don't like cooties. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: ive got a question |
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wheres the autoclave ha ha ha ha ha!  |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: ive got a question |
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| tattoobox wrote: | | wheres the autoclave ha ha ha ha ha! |
not in there, cause it should not be in there. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: ive got a question |
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| tattoobox wrote: | | wheres the autoclave ha ha ha ha ha! |
In the autoclave room...where it is supposed to be. Ha ha ha ha ha!
You claim to be a tattooist and couldn't figure that out? |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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You have a nice really clean shop Badwolf  |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanx, Jim! |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wow Badwolf, what a nice area, too bad you arent' in my area, I'd see you about my next work, looks like you have a great shop there  .
I am now offically even more impressed than I was before . |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: ive got a question |
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| BadWolf wrote: | | tattoobox wrote: | | wheres the autoclave ha ha ha ha ha! |
In the autoclave room...where it is supposed to be. Ha ha ha ha ha!
You claim to be a tattooist and couldn't figure that out? |
Why is this? Is there a specific reason, or is that just your personal liking?
I'm not trying to stir s&^t up, I'm just ignorant about this topic. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Because when I tattoo someone the room must be considered to be "contaminated" until it is cleaned.
It only stands to reason that you do not pull sterile instruments out into a contaminated room.
ON THE OTHER HAND...
Once the room has been cleaned, it only stands to reason that you would not want to bring contaminated instruments into it to be sterilized.
There are certain zones that must be observed. By violating that procedure, the risk of cross contamination goes WAAAAAAAAAAY UP.
it is explained in detail HERE:
http://www.everytattoo.com/tattooforum/viewtopic.php?t=948 |
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