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ImurSuperman142
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject: Raised tattoos |
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| I have 6 tattoo I have te Superman "S" on my back with the american flag in it. then a tribal arm bad and some words on my left arm( 2 seperate ones). A design on my calf, and some write lettering on my wrist. On all of my tats they are raised off my skin. You can run your finger over them and feel them. Everyone else that i know that goes to this artist doesnt have that problem theirs goes all the way down. My question is is it my artist or my skin? Is my artist going to deep into my skin? or is it just my skin. This has me so upset i am thinking of going to another artist even thought this guy does amazing work. Any ideas?? |
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I'm interested in hearing about this too.
I have a similar issue with a small tribal band on my arm, but only on one side.
The large piece on my chest, done by a different artist, came out perfectly flat. |
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hi maybe you should try another artist once and see how it turns out if its ok tell the artist youve been to previously of the problem you have and explain what it is you had the problem with and obviously he knows about it. have you asked your artist? if the tat isnt fine after youve tried another artist consult your doctor. if your not having any pain with the tattoos you have amybe it is your skin everyones different. hope it helps 
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ImurSuperman142
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah i have another artist lined up and if its the same i know its my skin. but i just doubt its my skin. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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if you find it is your skin dont worry about it, if your tattoos are smart and your pleased with what your artists done then just forget about it, nobodys going to notice im sure.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:31 am Post subject: |
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*Sigh*
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*Waits for an actual professional opinion*
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I like the original question to this thread and am interested to hear what the resident tattoo people have to say. My husband has a nasty raised tattoo on his shoulder and I would hate to see him get another one just like that. If it is his skin, I would try to persuade him not to get another tattoo.
Perhaps this is a great example of a Google-able question though? |
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The raised skin can be a couple of things. Scarring, being the more common. It was likely overworked. That can happen if your skin is prone to scarring, and the artist isn't experienced enough to realize it, and work accordingly, or it can be just that the artist is a complete butcher. Did he check the needles with an eye loupe prior to using them? They may have been hooked and if he didn't check them, he may have missed that. It is amazing to me what garbage most people think they need, and dont, yet they lack things that are REQUIRED. I see people spending money on thermal copiers before they own an autoclave or an eye loupe. The autoclave and eye loupe are NECESSARY...Thermal copiers aren't. If you sit down to get a tattoo, and the "artist" doesn't check the needles with an eye loupe, LEAVE. I have seen every excuse in the world for a tattoo turning out bad, and in most cases it was because the "artist" didn't even own an eye loupe.
Second, some pigments tend to swell in heat...just like everything else expands and contracts, so do the solid particles under the skin, sometimes. I have a tattoo that is all black that seems to raise up on hot humid days when I get all sweaty, but is normal, otherwise. Without seeing it, I would guess it is one of those two problems. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Ah, a professional opinion! I'm kinda pissy today and the suggestion of simply just changing artists to see if it happens again, got to me.
So what is an eye loupe? I can ask to make sure the artist is using one, but is this something I should be able to seem them do? I would just be pissed if they didn't use this thing, tattooed me and I got a puffy tattoo. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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An eyeloupe is a magnification devise like jewlers use. Any serious tattooist will have a 30X eye loupe sitting at his workspace, and will check every needle before using it. Bad needles and no knowledge or training are the main causes of all tattoo problems, although many other things are blamed. Imagine a fish hook going in and out of your skin at 115Hz. A hooked needle is the same exact thing.
I know people who call themselves professionals, and have every junk gadget on the market sitting around, collecting cooties...but the few things they actually NEED, they don't have a clue about. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Ooooh, that's an eye loupe! Yeah, I'm smart  .
Good to know information for sure though. I don't know if I've seen that tip anywhere before? |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| Jenna wrote: | | Good to know information for sure though. I don't know if I've seen that tip anywhere before? |
I'll bet 85% of the people calling themselves tattooists, and 100% of the scratchers didn't know until now, either. Nearly every problem asked about in this forum from "sketchy outlines" to "color fading" to "tattoos hurting too much" to "problems blamed on allergic reactions" are because of bad needles the asshole who did the tattoo never bothered to check.
Half of them wouldn't know what to look for even if they did own an eye loupe.
That and lack of knowledge and experience, and not knowing where to buy, or not being able to buy reputable products would make up 100% of all problems. |
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| I got another artist lined up so ill be fine i know this guys work is unbelievable. I think that my skin just scars and that is what it was his hands to heavy for my skin. I was told by someone to use virgin olive oil and rub it in at night for a month. What about that scar cream that makes skin go down. he didnt ever check his needles but i ave got 5 from him so im sure that nott every single needle is like that that he has used on me. so i figured it was his heavy hand |
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When i started my apprenticeship, the first pieces of equipment that I was intructed to buy were an eye loupe and a pair of magnifying glasses. I love seeing things on the net that tell people to buy specific pencils to draw with, paticular brands of pigments, and a certain weight machine, but fail to mention these 2 crucial tools. ahh, life is grand.
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| Yep. Needles are so fragile that it doesn't take much to hook or damage them. It should be common sense to anyone with a weeks worth of training that you need to be able to see the needles, and know what you are looking for. That's why I still make my own...I have tried every brand of pre-made out there, and a large percentage of the needles, I would not have used on my worst enemy. You can use the best machines, and the best pigments and the best tubes in the best studio, and if you are trying to drive damaged needles into people, none of the rest makes a bit of difference. May as well use a sharp stick. |
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my mentor took me aside one day and showed me the difference between a pre-made 3 and one of his 3s, and the difference was amazing. His 3 was so tight that it almost looked like a single needle, where-as the pre-made looked wide and loose enough to be a 5, lol. The cluster was itself just looked shoddy. Admittedly, i still haven't made needles yet, but my mentor has showed me the different jigs and walked me through how to do it. BTW, I've actually seen pre-made 7 mags that were soldered to the bar BACKWARDS (yes, the loop went the wrong way, lol. no clue as to why). What can i say, some things never tend to amaze me.
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