"jailhouse" tattoos, at-home-ink
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dresdenrose
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 Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: "jailhouse" tattoos, at-home-ink |
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"Jailhouse" tattoos, self-tattoo, whatever you'd call it, I'm sure you all know what it is.
Using a needle and usually some liquid ink found around the house to give yourself a tattoo.
I recently read this statement online that said something to the effect of "your mother was right, you were too young to get a tattoo and it shows"
It got me thinking, what do people think of at-home-tattoo art?
I have two tattoos that ive given myself, a small pentagram-star on the inside of my ring finger and a simple smiley face on my hip.
Both of these are neat and symmetrical, solid black, which i think makes them more acceptable than most self-tattoos.
I think thats a big difference too, because i know that little 13 year old kids sitting at home mad at their parents and carving anarchy symbols into their arms is ridiculous, but if the tattoo can be self-imposed and be good looking, simple, and neat, can it be respected by members of the "tattoo community"? |
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Someone get the sandbags, I feel an impending flood on the horizon 
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oh god really?
i was just curious, i wasnt anticipating emotionally charged responses |
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darlin, use the search feature in the top left corner under the everytattoo banner and look up "scratcher"
then read the stickies on what defines a clean tattoo parlour.. and ask yourself.. did my kitchen table/desk/bed/dresser drawer, etc whatever.. have any of that stuff that badwolf listed?
then rethink the above statement..
and hang on... because you're gonna get flamed pretty hard here
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: "jailhouse" tattoos, at-home-ink |
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i can't speak for anybody else.. but no.. if you tried to tell me that your kitchen made tattoo is good solid work, i'd laugh in your face.. however, there's probly a thousand miles between us and it just doesn't have the same effect when you do it from behind a computer screen..
if you wanted a tattoo that badly, why not give up the cash and see a REAL artist who wouldn't butcher you.. a lot of studios have flat rates, meaning if you just wanted a little piece of something, you can get it done for a fairly decent price.. so i can't see how money could have been an issue, just stupidity... boredom? .. what on earth inspired you to do that to yourself?
regardless, let us see some pics of this "acceptable homemade tattoo"
then we can really have a laugh..
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I tend to be one of the more "level-headed" and "considerate" regulars that post on this board. That being said, I'm sure you'll see that a few of the folks here are more....Colorful characters.
Anywho, as to your question, The simpe answer is that most professionals look done on homemade tattoos (myself included). 99% of what i see in the shop when someone shows me their "homemade tat" is a rough looking, spotchy, dotty mess.
That being said, If someone is doing the old "needle-and-thread" tattoo on themselves, they generally catch less slack than if they're doing it on others (the term in the tattoo artist's vernacular for a person doing that is "a scratcher").
As I said, I'm certain that the discussion that's on it's way in this thread will be yet another another memorable one. I'll just grab a bowl of popcorn and watch the sparlks fly
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| I think you're missing my question, I want to know if those kinds of tattoos (if they're done well) can be viewed without the negative stigma of self-tattooing, can "tattoo people" appreciate these kinds of tattoos or is it just black and white - self done tattoos are stupid - end of it? |
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If you want to sit at home and go at yourself with a sewing needle and a bottle of drawing ink, have at it. It's your body, your skin. You're the only person who has to live with the results.
It's the idiots out there tattooing OTHER PEOPLE without any sort of knowledge or proper training that we PROS have a problem with.
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i think you just got a couple of pretty good answers.. like cx said, he's pretty level headed, and me, well i am, too.. msot of the time..
but seriously, you've sparked interest now.. what inspired you to do this?
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| I also wanted to clarify: I've had professional tattoos, I've got two of them, I'm not like, refusing to shell out money for "real" tattoos |
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The one thing I have going for myself as a tattoo artist is the ability to be "Honest to a Fault". If someone comes into the shop and shows me a tattoo, I'm going to give them an honest opinion on it.
It doesn't matter if it was done by a shop down the street, a shop in another state, some kid in their kitchen, or even themselves. If the tattoo looks good, I'll say 'man, that looks solid!", and, adversely, if the tattoo is garbage, then I'll simply tell them that the tattoo is question is "simply too bad".
Now, that being said, the issue of ASTHETICS and the issue of SAFETY are 2 completely different areas. At least, in your paticular case (and the case of all self-tattooers), the worse that you're going to get in a basic infection (i.e dirt in a fresh cut) from using a non-sterilized needle. It's kinda tough to catch Hepatitus from yourself, catch my drift?
However, if you got your tattoo from a "kitchen magician" that had been tattooing a dozen other people with that same needle/tube/unprotected objects/ect., that would be a COMPLETELY different story all together.
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| fall_child138 wrote: | i think you just got a couple of pretty good answers.. like cx said, he's pretty level headed, and me, well i am, too.. msot of the time..
but seriously, you've sparked interest now.. what inspired you to do this? |
the reason I did the two that I did was because (and this is kind of complicated and very weird so bear with me) I had/have this thing with symbols, and meanings.
The two tattoos that I've had professionally done are also symbols.
So then take the symbolic - thing, and mix it with the fact that I'm facinated with methodical and persistent and focused pain.
The ones I did at home, really, I did in an act of compulsion, Its a mental thing that involves the symbols and my body and even more crazy bitch stuff.
I wasnt ever the "scratcher" kid who wanted a tattoo to look like a badass before i was 18, which is kind of why i was asking about this in the first place because people view self tattooing as only that i think |
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| dresdenrose wrote: | | I think you're missing my question, I want to know if those kinds of tattoos (if they're done well) can be viewed without the negative stigma of self-tattooing, can "tattoo people" appreciate these kinds of tattoos or is it just black and white - self done tattoos are stupid - end of it? |
Most are complete shit. I'd say 99.9% or higher.
However, every once in a while I might see something that impresses me artistically and makes me wonder what that person could do with proper equipment and training.
There are some tattoos, backpieces and such, being done behind prison walls that are nothing short of astonishing considering the equipment and conditions. In fact, fine-line black & gray tattooing as we know it today was "invented" a result of street shops in and around Southern California trying to emulate (and improve upon) some of the better prison tattooing that was coming out of places like San Quinten at the time.
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Now I know I'm going to catch flack for this, for even asking and I understand...but tonight I happened to be watching an episode of"Jail"...for those of you that don't know it's produced by the guys that brought you COPS, except this is at the booking station....
Anyways this guy gets escorted into a jail cell and they ask him about his tattoos, he has multiple white pride tattoos, and from what I can tell some of them actually look like decent (not great, but not bad) work and he goes on to say he got all of them in the drink......Now I'm wondering if this was just a bold faced lie, or is it actually possible to get a decent looking tattoo while locked up? I understand the health implications and the like but consider me a bit impressed if some of those tattoos came from a stitching needle and some Indian ink.
Thoughts? AGAIN I"M NOT ADVOCATING going to prison to get work done hahaha!
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If they looked GOOD then they weren't a simple "stitching needle and ink". They were more-than-likely done, if they looked alright and were from prison, but a home-made tattoo machine (a stringer).
My girl's Dad has full coverage from his hands, up both arms, and onto his chest and covering his whole back, all from his time in prison. That being said, 75% of what he has is garbage, 20% is bad, and about 5% is pretty solid (clean linework, smooth shading).
Yes, good tattooing CAN be done behind bars (once again, good in an artistic and technical sense, not good as in a "clean and safe" sense), but most of the time it isn't.
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