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yea i watched that shockin'
his mother got him onto drugs at 16 he was injecting with his mother it was their "bond" its disgraceful!
he shoulda been out with his mates or coming home to a nice hot meal cooked by a loving mother not to injecting with her!
no wander he was messed up poor sod!! |
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The pistols rocked!!!!
They were awesome
Still love all their songs
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Well, new person with the word "vicious" in your SN, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As I pointed out, the case can be made that all the tracks from "Never Mind the Bollocks" still hold up pretty well and are solid tunes.
That said, there's no way you can honestly look me in the face and say "Seriously, every track from 'The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle' is freakin' amazing!" I know that the pistols were "defunct" at the point of it's release (once again proving that, instead of being a "band", they were really not much more than Malcom's puppet show), but they still were released as Sex Pistols songs.
I'm not saying the whole album is garbage, but it's definitely hit-or-miss (with much more of the later than the former).
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I read two posts into the second page & stopped, so forgive me if anything here has already been covered.
Black Flag are one of the best bands ever formed.
& on the topic of "Black" bands, Big Black are more punk than anyone that has ever called themselves punk, get educated.
I'm not even gonna go into the whole Sex Pistols thing. I could understand it if you were there at the time, but looking back on it all it's a bit embarassing isn't it? |
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| Freddie wrote: | Well, new person with the word "vicious" in your SN, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. As I pointed out, the case can be made that all the tracks from "Never Mind the Bollocks" still hold up pretty well and are solid tunes.
That said, there's no way you can honestly look me in the face and say [i]"Seriously, every track from 'The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle' is freakin' amazing!"
I'm not saying the whole album is garbage, but it's definitely hit-or-miss (with much more of the later than the former). |
I'm not saying they're all amazing, there are amazing songs on there but some are good none of them are bad. I guess we would have to agree to disagree
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I'm not even gonna go into the whole Sex Pistols thing. I could understand it if you were there at the time, but looking back on it all it's a bit embarassing isn't it? |
Errrrrrm
NO
to put it simply.
I think black flag are ok some of their stuffs good but mainly just bland to be honest.
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Antler, as much as I dig Rollins, that vid pointed out everything that was wrong with the guy. He was a dick and came off as threatening to a scrawny 15 year old kid. Yeah, the kid obviously wasn't the most intelligent, but hank was a full-grown adult (and a jacked full-grown adult) intimidating a skinny kid. That wasn't cool.
I enjoy seeing hank win battles of words with folks on his own level, but that was honestly just him being a bully to someone that he knew he was bigger than. A lot of people complain that Rollins was more like "the football player that put the kids in the audience in lockers in high school", and, in that vid, I expected that kid to be pantsed and stuffed in a locker at any second, lol.
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| Freddie wrote: | | That wasn't cool. |
You're right.
It was AWESOME!
Actually, I think that kid got the pwning he needed. |
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| Antler wrote: | | Freddie wrote: | | That wasn't cool. |
You're right.
It was AWESOME!
Actually, I think that kid got the pwning he needed. |
I'll bet that kid was relieved when he saw Henry Rollins in Bad Boys II.
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Yeah, the kid that ran a fanzine, saw shows, and supported the scene deserved to get shit on.... 
By the time "My War" came out, Flag had, essentially "turned it back" on the scene that they helped build (and, in turn, helped build them). By that, I mean that they started "hating the HC kids" (Rollins words) and claiming all that didn't love their half-assed jazz-fusion experimentation simply weren't intelligent enough to get it.
That said, they still played shows with other HC bands and never turned down money from the kids coming to the shows or buying the records.
As I stated before, early (key word) Black Flag is amazing. The Morris/Chavo/Dez era that was collection on the "First Four Years" comp is UNSTOPPABLE. "Damaged" and "My War" are 2 of the best HC/Metal crossover records of the era. That said, by the time "Family man", :Slip it in", "Loose Nut" and "In my Head" came out, they were a fucking mess.
"Family man" was the opitome of "Up their own asses" pretentious BS : 1 side full of Rollins spoken word material (which I did on it's own), and 1 side of 10 minutes, improv jazz-fusion jams by guys that really weren't skilled enough to pull it off.
"Slip it in" is hit or miss (i.e INFINITELY better than "Family man"), but Keith Morris put it best : "It sounds like Black Sabbath songs attempted by guys that still need to take some lessons from the Ramones.".
"Loose Nut" and "In My Head" were just more of the same : A band trying to play songs that were too complex for them at the time. Arguable, the "Damaged" era Flag, with it's more solid rythm section and dual guitar attack, may have been able to make them work, but later flag, with guys like C'el and a stoned-beyond-the-point-of-functioning Ginn just failed miserably.
Black Flag, simply because of their pre-85 material, stands as one of my favorite bands. They helped build the first gen HC scene and were pioneers of the sound and style. That said, it still didn't give Rollins the right to be a dick to kids 10 years younger and 1/4 the size of him.
In "Get in the Van", he talks about how he acted that way because of his insecurities and what-not. Once again, a much as I love Rollins, that's BS. It's a clear case of a kid that got picked on growing up, working out, and reveling in the fact that the tables have turned.
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I really like Never Mind the Bollocks, every last song of it. That being said, their image was too managed, and it was too much about money. I especially dislike McLarren after seeing a Pistols documentary in which he brags about just wanting to promote his clothes and putting Sid in the band because shitty music is "what they're selling". Without their attention-whore manager they may not have thrown out Glen Matlock and may have lived on to make more good albums, who knows.
As for Black Flag, I like them but do think that their music is way too teenage-angst filled. And jerk is a stupid word, wherever you are from. I cannot imagine listening to this music in a few years and not feeling a bit as if I need to grow up. |
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Yeah, "jerk" is a lame wors and every artist that ever used it are hacks and should be forgotten about. That list also includes :
Social Distotion, Iggy Pop, The Circle Jerks (it's in their freakin' name for cryin' out loud!), The Ramones, The US Bombs, and on and on. Hell, let's murder Steve Martin for making "The Jerk" while we're at it!
Sorry, I just think that using the fact that a band used the word "jerk" in a couple songs as your main point of contention is pretty week.
BTW, I'd personally rate the 4 bands/artists I just listed head-and-shoulders over the Sex Pistols as well. I guess it's because I'm a "jerk".
...and The Jerk is one of the best comedies of all time, period. 
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It is definitely not my main argument. My main argument is about the emotionally unstable adolescent lyrics, which kinda alienates me now that I'm in my twenties. But I think they're a great band all in all.
The best punk bands are The Clash and The Ramones, with The Clash definitely being way superior in musical quality and variety. It is one of the greatest, most inventive rock bands ever, while The Ramones is probably the most fun a rock band ever had to offer. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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both them videos where painful, but rollins came across like such a dick, i guess to be punk is to be horrible to people....i think theres no excuse for that, the kid didnt do whything to him.
on the sex pistols subject they were great fashion icons haha |
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